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post Jun 3 2005, 16:24
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vai kaads uz manu e pastu vareetu (nzin kaa) aizsuutiit japaanu alfabeetu?Un vispaar kaa to visu maaaciities!


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post Jun 3 2005, 16:30
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http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Japanese:Katakana
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Japanese:Hiragana
un vispār: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Japanese
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post Jun 3 2005, 16:38
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tnx! biggrin.gif


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post Jun 4 2005, 20:48
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Skaties, taados resursos kaa, piemeeram, wikipedia kanas ir ljoti primitiivi uzziimeetas, taapeec lasiit var iemaactiities, bet rakstiit nee. Ja gribi maaciities rakstiit, iesaku http://members.aol.com/writejapan/index.htm Tur pie katras kanas ir klaat ir animaacija, kaadaa seciibaa un virzienos vinju ziimeet. Kaapeec tas ir svariigi? Taapeec, ka rokrakstaa ljoti labi var just, ar kuru sviitru saakts un kuraa virzienaa var vilkts.


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post Jun 4 2005, 22:12
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QUOTE(edg @ Jun 4 2005, 19:48)
Skaties, taados resursos kaa, piemeeram, wikipedia kanas ir ljoti primitiivi uzziimeetas, taapeec lasiit var iemaactiities, bet rakstiit nee. Ja gribi maaciities rakstiit, iesaku http://members.aol.com/writejapan/index.htm Tur pie katras kanas ir klaat ir animaacija, kaadaa seciibaa un virzienos vinju ziimeet. Kaapeec tas ir svariigi? Taapeec, ka rokrakstaa ljoti labi var just, ar kuru sviitru saakts un kuraa virzienaa var vilkts.
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Nav tur kanas ziimeetas - fonts tas ir. to var palielinaas/pamainiit. bet vispaar jau primitiivi vai neprimitiivi nav starpiibas - uz rakstiibas kana var atshkjirties, tieshi taameec ir svariigi zinaat liiniju ziimeeshanas seciibu pat ja grib tikai lasiit. Japaanjiem simbolu ziimeeshana ir maaksla smile.gif

Es piemeeram hiraganu maaciijos peec shitaa: http://www.thejapanesepage.com/readarticle.php?article_id=2 (diemzheel tur nav katakana kursa, bet es to veiksmiigi atliku un taa arii vel joprojaam neesmu iemaaciijies smile.gif )


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post Jun 4 2005, 23:07
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QUOTE(lastguru @ Jun 4 2005, 21:12)
Nav tur kanas ziimeetas - fonts tas ir. to var palielinaas/pamainiit.
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Viss uz datora ekraana tiek ziimeets, taa nu vish dziivee iekaartots, lai kaa liktos, ka paraadaas momentaali.


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post Jun 4 2005, 23:17
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QUOTE(edg @ Jun 4 2005, 22:07)
QUOTE(lastguru @ Jun 4 2005, 21:12)
Nav tur kanas ziimeetas - fonts tas ir. to var palielinaas/pamainiit.
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Viss uz datora ekraana tiek ziimeets, taa nu vish dziivee iekaartots, lai kaa liktos, ka paraadaas momentaali.
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Nu jaa, uz datora ekraana viss ir ziimeets ar punktu paliidziibu, cita lieta kas tiek njemts par pamatu. TTF fontu gadiijumaa taa ir vektorgrafika, kuru var meerogot, kaut vai lai uz visu ekraanu burts buutu - tad jau nevarees pateikt ka tas ir sliktaa kvalitaatee vai primitiivi uzziimeets. Jebkursh nopietns fonts ir taisiits taads, lai vinjsh atbilstu noteiktaam normaam, buutu unikaals, lasaams, un konsistents pats ar sevi.

Anyway, tas ir offtopic, case closed.


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post Jun 5 2005, 10:03
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QUOTE(lastguru @ Jun 4 2005, 22:17)
Nu jaa, uz datora ekraana viss ir ziimeets ar punktu paliidziibu, cita lieta kas tiek njemts par pamatu. TTF fontu gadiijumaa taa ir vektorgrafika, kuru var meerogot, kaut vai lai uz visu ekraanu burts buutu - tad jau nevarees pateikt ka tas ir sliktaa kvalitaatee vai primitiivi uzziimeets. Jebkursh nopietns fonts ir taisiits taads, lai vinjsh atbilstu noteiktaam normaam, buutu unikaals, lasaams, un konsistents pats ar sevi.

Anyway, tas ir offtopic, case closed.
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Tas nav offtopic. Dazhaadu resursu kanu kvalitaate pilniibaa piederas topikam "japaanu alfabeets, kur to maaciities".

Tas, ka kaut kas ziimeets vektorgrafikaa nepadara to par labas kvalitaates ziimeejumu. Palielini tachu pats tos fontus - prosti.


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post Jun 13 2005, 19:30
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paldieshins par ieteikumiem! cool.gif


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post Jul 21 2005, 15:01
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patiesiiba japaanu valoda kaa tada jeb teorija nav tik gruuta kaa taas alfabeets.
parasti mees ja kaut ko nesaprotam tad to saucam par kiinieshu aabeci, bet patiesiibaa japaanu alfabeets buutu taa jaasauc, kursh sastaav no 50'354 hiroglifie un vairaak nekaa 526'000 to savienojumiem.
ti kam patiik lasiit ir jaazin visma 3000 hiroglifu, bet paarejiem kas negrib tik daudz maaciities izgliitiibas ministrija ir uzdevusi par obligaatu iemaaciitie 1945~2000 hiroglifu.

P.S. diezvai es speetu iemaaciitie, ko taadu, man jau nepatiik lv. val. maaciities skolaa.
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post Jul 21 2005, 15:06
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QUOTE(Dero @ Jul 21 2005, 15:01)
patiesiiba japaanu valoda kaa tada jeb teorija nav tik gruuta kaa taas alfabeets.
parasti mees ja kaut ko nesaprotam tad to saucam par kiinieshu aabeci, bet patiesiibaa japaanu alfabeets buutu taa jaasauc, kursh sastaav no 50'354 hiroglifie un vairaak nekaa 526'000 to savienojumiem.
ti kam patiik lasiit ir jaazin visma 3000 hiroglifu, bet paarejiem kas negrib tik daudz maaciities izgliitiibas ministrija ir uzdevusi par obligaatu iemaaciitie 1945~2000 hiroglifu.

P.S. diezvai es speetu iemaaciitie, ko taadu, man jau nepatiik lv. val. maaciities skolaa.
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Uj, uj, uj, tu nu gan pārspīlē!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Īstenībā ir tikai ap 10 000 ķīniešu hieroglifu. kur tu rāvi, ka to ir 50 354, a?
Un vispār, senās Ķīnas pirmsākumos tiešām ir bijis tāds cipars, kādu tu pieminēji, bet mūsdienās pat pašā Ķīnā tik daudz (10 000) hieroglifu nelieto, par Japānu nemaz nerunājot. Turklāt, tā kā hieroglifu skaits ir ļoti liels, to patieso skaitu ir grūti aplēst.
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post Jul 21 2005, 15:16
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ja tu palasiitu uzmaniigaak runa iet par japaanu alfabeetu un matreaals ir nemts no japaanas kultuuras graamats, kuru sarakstiijis laikam LU profesors
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post Jul 21 2005, 15:24
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QUOTE(Dero @ Jul 21 2005, 15:16)
ja tu palasiitu uzmaniigaak runa iet par japaanu alfabeetu un matreaals ir nemts no japaanas kultuuras graamats, kuru sarakstiijis laikam LU profesors
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nu lai tā būtu, bet es neticu
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post Jul 21 2005, 21:28
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QUOTE(Dero @ Jul 21 2005, 15:01)
patiesiiba japaanu valoda kaa tada jeb teorija nav tik gruuta kaa taas alfabeets.
parasti mees ja kaut ko nesaprotam tad to saucam par kiinieshu aabeci, bet patiesiibaa japaanu alfabeets buutu taa jaasauc, kursh sastaav no 50'354 hiroglifie un vairaak nekaa 526'000 to savienojumiem.
ti kam patiik lasiit ir jaazin visma 3000 hiroglifu, bet paarejiem kas negrib tik daudz maaciities izgliitiibas ministrija ir uzdevusi par obligaatu iemaaciitie 1945~2000 hiroglifu.

P.S. diezvai es speetu iemaaciitie, ko taadu, man jau nepatiik lv. val. maaciities skolaa.

brrrrr.... nani???

Japaanju alfabets (vai pareizaak sakot zilbju kopa) kaa taads ir hiragana, punkts. (nu vispaar jau ir veel origjinaalais japaanju alfabets, bet to neviens tagad nelieto un neviens arii neatceras, bet vispaar taads ir bijis). Kanji nav nekaads alfabets. Nevar to nosaukt par alfabetu viena ljoti svariiga iemesla deelj: alfabets apziimee izrunu, atrauti no noziimes, bet hierogliifi apziimee noziimi, atrauti no izrunas.

Bet ja runaajam par kanji, tad ir izveeleeti 1945 baazes simboli, un veel 983 papildus cilveeku vaardu kanji. Parasti pieaugushie zina ap 3000 hieroglifu. Protams ka ir vinjiem tie 50 vai cik tur tuukstoshi simboji (lielaakaa vaardnicaa, jebkad izdota, satur ap 50 tuukstoshiem kanji, bet peec citas informaacijas vareetu buut kopaa ap 80 tuukstoshiem), bet tos pashi japaanji nezin. Jaunieshi pat dazhreiz tos obligaatos nezin... Modernajaas valodaas ir taa: kjiinieshi mieriigi dziivo ar 10000 hierogliifiem, japaanji izmanto ap 2000-3000.


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post Sep 3 2005, 12:49
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luuk, cilweeki meegjina japaanju raxtiibu paraaadiit taa,kgan tas neatbilst patiesiibaj.. shitais bij wnk lol -
http://www.dafont.com/en/font.php?file=japanese

un ir ljaudis,kas patieshaam notic,ka jaapnju burtinsh a ir taac un A atkal shitaac.. waax..


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