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> Patiesībā ir tur ārā - "I Hate Anime Fans"
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post Apr 20 2004, 15:40
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Diezgan kritisks dažu, manuprāt, acīmredzamu lietu apkopojums.
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post Apr 20 2004, 16:15
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Saits, kas lika man smaidīt.... Kaut gan sava patiesiba tur ir rodama unsure.gif
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post Apr 20 2004, 16:32
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Daudzas no taam probleemaam pie mums, latvieshu faniem, neesmu ieveerojis. Bet vispaar jaa, aciimredzami.

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Man nepatiik tas variants, ka anime=animation=cartoon. No lingvistiski veesturiskaa viedoklja mees varam tam piekrist, bet kaartiigs valodnieks zinaas, ka vaarda noziimi veido tas, kaa vaardu uztver taa lietotaaji. Secinaajums: ja anime fani anime neuzskata par cartoon, tad tas nav cartoon tongue.gif Pats neprotesteeju, ka anime ir multene, tomeer, ja nejapaanju multeni par anime nosauc, tad gan kaut kaads riebums rodas, jo galu galaa ar vaardu "anime" muusdienaas nejapaanji uztver "japaanju animaaciju", taatad taada arii ir shii vaarda noziime!


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post Apr 20 2004, 16:34
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'Anime' and 'cartoon' mean the same thing.


Who cares... I don`t watch cartoons, how should I know?

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Watching anime does not make you a qualified expert on the Japanese culture.


Shim es piekriitu. Zin, no anime jau uzreiz neiemaaciisies Japaanas veesturi, kultuuru un tradiicijas.

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Sailor Moon (Sailormoon, whatever) is not the be-all and end-all of animated entertainment.


Hey, visiem anime faniem patiik SM? rolleyes.gif Man gan taa neliekas. SM ir kaarteejais komerciaalais projekts hvz cik seeriju garumaa (katraa zinaa daudz).

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I have seen the Original Real Japanese Version. I don't want to get started on this.


Xex, ir veel par ko piekasiities. Tagad jaazin, ka vairs nav OVA vai OAV, bet gan ORJV, skaidrs? rolleyes.gif

Vispaar cik shitas teksts ir vecs?




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post Apr 20 2004, 16:42
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Rune, nea.

Kill Bill Vol.1. ir amerikaanju versija (taa, ko mees visi esam redzeejushi) un "Original Real Japanese Version", kuraa ir, kaa zinaam, viss krutaak. Un ar "Original Animation Video" tur sakars ir 0. Shitie izteicieni ir galiigi atshkjiriihi.


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post Apr 20 2004, 21:39
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Aa, es domaaju, ka vienk. ja tur tiek rakstiits par anime faniem un anime, tad tas attiecas arii uz anime. Vareetu jau buut shitaa - Original Real Japanese Anime Version. smile.gif


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post Apr 20 2004, 23:15
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Original Only Real True Japanese Manga-Based Animation Video
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post Apr 21 2004, 10:57
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Sjur tur jau tam keksam ir taisniiba, tacju noraadot uz vairuma anime fanu augspraatiibu un elitaaro statusu, pats savu rakstu ir paarsaatinaajis ar paaraakumu paudosjaam pieziimeem. Tie tur idinji es amiisju skaidrais sapraats un dziljaa jeega. Kretinee ASV un vairaakums sjiis valsts iedziivotaaju ar prezidentu prieksjgalaa (tas nu taa, atkaape).
P.s. Ja jau vinjapraat Sailor Moon ir anime apoteoze, tad ir skaidrs ko vinsj visu sjo laiku ir skatiijies un ar kaadiem "otaku" komuniceejis.


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post Apr 21 2004, 14:57
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Pareizi! Pamēģiniet vēl man iestāstīt ka Manga nav komiksi!


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post Apr 21 2004, 17:07
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vai tad angļu valodā tāds vārds kā "anime" vispār pastāv? manuprāt ir animation nevis anime vai tad nē? lai nu kā imho ne anime ne manga nav pareizi attiecināt teiksim uz Marvel izstrādātajiem komiksiem vai animācijas filmām ( "animācijas filmas" - ehh... ) jo vienkārši tas būtu tas pats kas teikt ka Harley-Davidson = motocikls = Jawa ( stulbaku piemēru jau laikam vairs nevarēju atrast... ) tāpēc jau tika ieviesti šie vārdi lai varētu apzīmēt kaut ko konkrētu - šajā gadījumā animācijas filmas un komiksus kas veidoti japānā un ir netikai veidoti bet arī atšķiras no citās zemēs izstrādātajām alternatīvām...

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Pareizi! Pamēģiniet vēl man iestāstīt ka Manga nav komiksi!

manga tehniski ir komikss ( arī ) - tāpat ka Spider-Man bet tas pats Spider-Man nav manga smile.gif

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Manga, in Japanese, means "flowing words" or "Undisciplined words". It is an ancient art that has been used for centuries as a form of entertainment. It's basicallt Japanese comic books, which can be easily translated to English. However, just saying manga are comics from Japan is wrong.
First of all, in the US and in Europe, most comics are addressed to young children between the ages of 9 and 13. That is not the case of manga. There are 6-7 major types of manga, each having its own audience. Kodomo manga is for children. Shonen manga is for boys ages 12-18 , Shoujo manga is for gilrs age 12-18. Josei manga is for adult ladies above the age of 20, mainly working women. Seinen manga is for young men between the ages of 18 and 30, and Hentai manga is pornographic, adult manga.

As you can see, saying "comics from Japan" is wrong. Another difference between manga and Western comics is that each comics volume has its own plot, while manga volumes all follow the same plot. The artwork is VERY different. Manga has its own particular artwork, especially when it comes to human faces, particularly the eyes, chin, nose, mouth, forehead... Manga is also read from RIGHT to LEFT. (Yes, even the English ones).

In Japan, 40% of all book & magazine sales are manga. That's a huge number, considering the Japanese read A LOT. In 1998, about 3 billion manga volumes were printed in Japan, I'm sure that number is higher now.

Many manga have been translated to English and are sold everywhere.

vienīgais kam es varētu piekrist no tā visa:

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I hate anime fans because they are conceited, anal-retentive, silly, thickheaded, ignorant, inane and elitist. It is true that every human being displays these traits at some point in their lives, but most anime fans seem to have gotten an extra helping of them. Most of the time, I find them simply naive, grating, and irritating when they begin to discuss their preferred medium of entertainment.

... protams tas ir dziļi atkarīgs no katra individuāli...

btw kopš kura laika Sailor Moon ir kļuvis par anime etalonu huh.gif


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post Apr 21 2004, 18:33
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Saiko, taa raksta autora doma bija, ka anime=animation, jo japaaniski pats vaards "anime" tulkojas tieshi kaa "animation". Taapeec vinjsh ceela tos iebildumus.


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post Apr 21 2004, 19:00
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interesanti... kaut kā nepiefiksēju... tādā gadījumā man jāpiekrīt vien tev pašam:

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Man nepatiik tas variants, ka anime=animation=cartoon. No lingvistiski veesturiskaa viedoklja mees varam tam piekrist, bet kaartiigs valodnieks zinaas, ka vaarda noziimi veido tas, kaa vaardu uztver taa lietotaaji. Secinaajums: ja anime fani anime neuzskata par cartoon, tad tas nav cartoon Pats neprotesteeju, ka anime ir multene, tomeer, ja nejapaanju multeni par anime nosauc, tad gan kaut kaads riebums rodas, jo galu galaa ar vaardu "anime" muusdienaas nejapaanji uztver "japaanju animaaciju", taatad taada arii ir shii vaarda noziime!


hmm... un kā tad paši japāņi apzīmē ne japānā veidoto animāciju? ... anime?


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post Apr 21 2004, 19:05
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4. Stop taking yourselves so damned seriously. Being an anime fan (or a fan of a certain series, or a fan of subs as opposed to dubs) does not make you superior to the average person.


EXACTLY!


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post Apr 21 2004, 23:48
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Saiko, es meegjinaaju noskaidrot no kaada iista japaanja, bet aciimredzot vinji visi 5am gulj tongue.gif

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Tikko parunaajos ar vienu japaani - vinji normaali lieto "anime" visos gadiijumos, bet, ja grib uzsveert valsti, tad attieciigi saka, piem., "american anime". Taapat ar saveejo (ja nesaputroju pareizrakstiibu): "nihon no anime" - "japanese anime".


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post Apr 22 2004, 01:16
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