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post Jun 3 2005, 16:24
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vai kaads uz manu e pastu vareetu (nzin kaa) aizsuutiit japaanu alfabeetu?Un vispaar kaa to visu maaaciities!


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Dero
post Jul 21 2005, 15:01
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patiesiiba japaanu valoda kaa tada jeb teorija nav tik gruuta kaa taas alfabeets.
parasti mees ja kaut ko nesaprotam tad to saucam par kiinieshu aabeci, bet patiesiibaa japaanu alfabeets buutu taa jaasauc, kursh sastaav no 50'354 hiroglifie un vairaak nekaa 526'000 to savienojumiem.
ti kam patiik lasiit ir jaazin visma 3000 hiroglifu, bet paarejiem kas negrib tik daudz maaciities izgliitiibas ministrija ir uzdevusi par obligaatu iemaaciitie 1945~2000 hiroglifu.

P.S. diezvai es speetu iemaaciitie, ko taadu, man jau nepatiik lv. val. maaciities skolaa.
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post Jul 21 2005, 21:28
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QUOTE(Dero @ Jul 21 2005, 15:01)
patiesiiba japaanu valoda kaa tada jeb teorija nav tik gruuta kaa taas alfabeets.
parasti mees ja kaut ko nesaprotam tad to saucam par kiinieshu aabeci, bet patiesiibaa japaanu alfabeets buutu taa jaasauc, kursh sastaav no 50'354 hiroglifie un vairaak nekaa 526'000 to savienojumiem.
ti kam patiik lasiit ir jaazin visma 3000 hiroglifu, bet paarejiem kas negrib tik daudz maaciities izgliitiibas ministrija ir uzdevusi par obligaatu iemaaciitie 1945~2000 hiroglifu.

P.S. diezvai es speetu iemaaciitie, ko taadu, man jau nepatiik lv. val. maaciities skolaa.

brrrrr.... nani???

Japaanju alfabets (vai pareizaak sakot zilbju kopa) kaa taads ir hiragana, punkts. (nu vispaar jau ir veel origjinaalais japaanju alfabets, bet to neviens tagad nelieto un neviens arii neatceras, bet vispaar taads ir bijis). Kanji nav nekaads alfabets. Nevar to nosaukt par alfabetu viena ljoti svariiga iemesla deelj: alfabets apziimee izrunu, atrauti no noziimes, bet hierogliifi apziimee noziimi, atrauti no izrunas.

Bet ja runaajam par kanji, tad ir izveeleeti 1945 baazes simboli, un veel 983 papildus cilveeku vaardu kanji. Parasti pieaugushie zina ap 3000 hieroglifu. Protams ka ir vinjiem tie 50 vai cik tur tuukstoshi simboji (lielaakaa vaardnicaa, jebkad izdota, satur ap 50 tuukstoshiem kanji, bet peec citas informaacijas vareetu buut kopaa ap 80 tuukstoshiem), bet tos pashi japaanji nezin. Jaunieshi pat dazhreiz tos obligaatos nezin... Modernajaas valodaas ir taa: kjiinieshi mieriigi dziivo ar 10000 hierogliifiem, japaanji izmanto ap 2000-3000.


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