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Rob_X
post Nov 24 2004, 18:10
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QUOTE(Laugh|nGMan @ Nov 24 2004, 16:45)

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Ko tu dezinformē tautu, ka avi var būt tikai viens audio treks mad.gif
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piemetinaashu ka vel dezinforme par subtitriem dry.gif
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post Nov 24 2004, 18:16
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QUOTE(Rob_X @ Nov 24 2004, 17:10)
piemetinaashu ka vel dezinforme par subtitriem  dry.gif
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Nejauc "soft" subtitrus ar iekodeetajiem...



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post Nov 24 2004, 18:16
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QUOTE(Laugh|nGMan @ Nov 24 2004, 17:45)
Intersanti vai standalone dvd pleijeri atskaņo mkv failus??

modots XBOX ar XBMC

QUOTE(Laugh|nGMan @ Nov 24 2004, 17:45)
Ko tu dezinformē tautu, ka avi var būt tikai viens audio treks

man gan likaas, ka bez hackiem avi nevareeja vairaak par vienu audio treku ielikt, taapeec arii WMP atskanjo abus audio trekus reizee (ja tomeer ir izdevies ielikt divus trekus).
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post Nov 24 2004, 18:20
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QUOTE(bbad @ Nov 24 2004, 17:16)
QUOTE(Laugh|nGMan @ Nov 24 2004, 17:45)
Intersanti vai standalone dvd pleijeri atskaņo mkv failus??
modots XBOX ar XBMC
Tas jau vairaak "dators" nekaa "standalone dvd playeris"

QUOTE(bbad @ Nov 24 2004, 17:16)
WMP atskanjo abus audio trekus reizee (ja tomeer ir  izdevies ielikt divus trekus).
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Tas taapeec, ka WMP razho viena ljoti paziistama kompaanija... tongue.gif


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post Nov 24 2004, 18:31
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QUOTE(deBUGa @ Nov 24 2004, 18:20)
Tas taapeec, ka WMP razho viena ljoti paziistama kompaanija... :P
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taa pati, kas defineeja avi.

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What is AVI?
AVI stands for Audio Video Interleave.  It is a special case
of the RIFF (Resource Interchange File Format).  AVI is defined by
Microsoft.  AVI is the most common format for audio/video data on the
PC.  AVI is an example of a de facto (by fact) standard.
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post Nov 24 2004, 18:54
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QUOTE(bbad @ Nov 24 2004, 17:31)
taa pati, kas defineeja avi.
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Tas ir tikai formaats, tas nelimitee, kaadi konkreeti video/audio kodeki tiks izmantoti...


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post Nov 24 2004, 19:10
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QUOTE(deBUGa @ Nov 24 2004, 18:54)
QUOTE(bbad @ Nov 24 2004, 17:31)
taa pati, kas defineeja avi.
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Tas ir tikai formaats, tas nelimitee, kaadi konkreeti video/audio kodeki tiks izmantoti...
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labriit. diemzheel limitee. avi failam nevar pielikt klaat .ogg vai .aac vai .mpc formaata audio treku.
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post Nov 24 2004, 22:30
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QUOTE(bbad @ Nov 24 2004, 18:10)
QUOTE(deBUGa @ Nov 24 2004, 18:54)
QUOTE(bbad @ Nov 24 2004, 17:31)
taa pati, kas defineeja avi.
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Tas ir tikai formaats, tas nelimitee, kaadi konkreeti video/audio kodeki tiks izmantoti...
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labriit. diemzheel limitee. avi failam nevar pielikt klaat .ogg vai .aac vai .mpc formaata audio treku.
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Lasi ko pats raksti!
"Nevar pielikt klaat .ogg vai .aac vai .mpc formaata audio treku."
nerunaa pretim tam, ka
formaats "nelimitee, kaadi konkreeti video/audio kodeki tiks izmantoti"

Bet vispaar es shajaa striidaa neiesaistos. Vienkaarshi gribeejaas kaut ko iepostost par godu tam, ka pats bbad uzdarbojas! biggrin.gif


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post Nov 24 2004, 23:08
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QUOTE(deBUGa @ Nov 24 2004, 17:16)
QUOTE(Rob_X @ Nov 24 2004, 17:10)
piemetinaashu ka vel dezinforme par subtitriem  dry.gif
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kadi tad ir tie "soft" subtitri ?
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post Nov 25 2004, 01:53
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QUOTE(Rob_X @ Nov 24 2004, 22:08)
kadi tad ir tie "soft" subtitri ?
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ogm-ā tas ir srt fails, tikai iekšā ogm konteinerā, arVirtualdub mod var pskatīties kas viņos iekšā un pat pārveidot video avi formātā. Tikai būs divi trūkumi .
1. Katreiz jākabina klāt izvilktais srt kā ārējie subtitri.
2.Skaņa būs jākonvertē uz mp3 ar visām no tā izrietošajām sekām. Kvalitāte būs jūtami sliktāka, jo skaņa jau iepriekš bija saspiesta. Var jau uzlikt vismaz 256 fiksēto bitreitu, bet tad fails sanāks lielāks kā bija. Kādreiz arī bija apnicis ka jātur vairākas BSplayer versijas lai skatītos ogm-us. mad.gif Atkarībā no izmantotajiem kodekiem un vel nez kādiem bagiem vienas versijas uzreiz atverot izlido ar ilegal operation, citas iet normāli.
Liekas ka ir parādijies arī kaut kāds alternatīvais ogm kodeks?


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post Nov 25 2004, 10:29
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QUOTE(bbad @ Nov 24 2004, 18:10)
QUOTE(deBUGa @ Nov 24 2004, 18:54)
QUOTE(bbad @ Nov 24 2004, 17:31)
taa pati, kas defineeja avi.
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Tas ir tikai formaats, tas nelimitee, kaadi konkreeti video/audio kodeki tiks izmantoti...
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labriit. diemzheel limitee. avi failam nevar pielikt klaat .ogg vai .aac vai .mpc formaata audio treku.
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labriit. Pielikt klaat var, tikai no taa nebuus lielas jeegas, jo ogg codecs neatbilst avi specifikaacijai (ja nekljuudos, tad kautkas tur neshtimeeja ar fixeeto/variable samplju skaitu paketee) . Redz ziloni jau arii vieglajaa mashiinaa bez cirvja neiedabuusi.

Atziistos, ka par limiteeshanu uzrakstiiju nepavisam korekti, tas domaats bija "ne vairaak kaa viens audio track" sakaraa. AVI formaats buutiibaa ir kautkas liidziigs OGM un MKV un teoreetiski nenosaka, kaa audio kodeks apstraadaas savus datus un cik "stream"i no taa visa beigaas sanaaks. Cita lieta, ka jams nosaka, kur glabaajas audio dati, kaa tiek sinhronizeeti ar video, vai tas viss ir streamojams un jau no taa izriet vai audio kodeku ir jeega likt klaat AVI formata failaa.

Papildinaats: Sakaraa ar ACC un MPC kodekiem atradu internetaa sekojoshu infu:
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Is it possible to use Musepack (MPC) audio with video?
At this time it is not yet possible in any container format. The developers of Matroska have plans to include Musepack audio in Matroska, but due to the opinion of the lead developer of Musepack and the bitstream format of Musepack this will not happen until the SV8 bitstream (the next version of Musepack) is finalized. However there may be a Musepack SV7>'SV7.5' bitstream converter, so your current MPC files might be possible in Matroska in the future.
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AVI MUX GUI is the only application that currently allows AAC muxing in avi. Note that AVI is not recommended for AAC as modern containers such as MP4 (which is AAC's native container).

Papildinaats 2: Turpat arii par OGG Vorbis:
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Vorbis in AVI will probably never work due to the complexity of Vorbis streams and the difficulty of correctly synching such a stream in AVI. However, AVI works with many other things that it's not supposed to so who knows.



QUOTE(Rob_X @ Nov 24 2004, 22:08)
kadi tad ir tie "soft" subtitri ?
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"soft" subi tiek "ziimeeti uz video" filmas skatiishanaas laikaa. Un tas noziimee, ka tiem var:
* Mainiit atrashanaas vietu uz ekraana
* Mainiit fontu/kraasu
* Atsleegt tos vispaar

"hard" subi tiek "ziimeeti" uz video kadriem jau filmas paarkodeeshanas laikaa. Un turpmaak paliek kaa video kadra sastaavdaja (resp. tos vairs nevar izmainiit/atsleegt).


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vaaks totaalaakaias mkv ir, peec visiem parametriem ir labaaks par avi, bet vieniigaa probleema ir liekie celinji un lieki subtitri biggrin.gif

Un vis viss labaakais formaats ir mpeg2 gan video gan skanja....... respectiivi DVD cool.gif


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besii mani galvenokaart tas ka i .mkv un .omg tik smagi sver deelj taa eng audio celinja kursh nu man nfg nav vajadziigs


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.mkv ir konteinerformāts. nav ne mkv audio ne mkv video, neatradīsiet.
Tas ir fails kurā sapakoti citi faili. Pamatdoma ir tieši tāda, lai varētu vienkārši nodrošināt dual audio/dual subtitles utt.
mkv failos var sapakot dajebko un reizēm arī pako - piem. mēdz būt .mkv iepakoti Real Media faili ph34r.gif


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QUOTE(Saiko @ Nov 24 2004, 15:33)
QUOTE(Outlawz @ Nov 24 2004, 08:50)
Saiko, tur jau tā lieta, ka nav sub tracku  sad.gif  aizej uz trubām un paskaties, puni puni poemi ir bez, niņa scroll tv sērijas arī ir bez.
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nu vot uzliku visu. un nekā sad.gif


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